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Omegas 52: Political Debate


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#21 Guest_AlphaMonkey_*

Posted 13 August 2007 - 07:25 PM

The orcs. The bad guys. Are they bad because they are evil to the bone, and whatnot (take Tolkien's orcs, for instance) or are they bad just because they happen to be the good guys' enemies? That is, would killing each and every single one of them be a morally reprehensible or a morally laudable action?


Huh. That's... not an easy question to answer.

I've... largely left the orcs in the Omega-verse to be somewhat two-dimensional villains. My focus has always been on the main cast, and their challenges as opposed to going into great, sweeping detail about the galaxy at large and its various inhabitants. I consider myself very character-driven, and yes, in a way, that means that the "villains" are simply there to be villains. They're evil mostly because I need someone for my protagonists to fight against.

I suppose, then, if that's not your cup of tea, well, then it's not.

As for whether killing them all would be morally reprehnsible or the opposite... that's not something I have an easy answer for, either. I suppose I can answer that in terms of an in-universe perspective.

A lot of Confederation citizens, especially those who've been hit hard by the war are likely to say that "the only good orc is a dead orc." Sure. That's to be expected. But by the same token, a lot are going to acknowledge that yes, some horrible deeds have been perpetrated by the Dominion, but even so, is it ever right to just kill them all off?

That's where a lot of the sort of moral quandary comes from with regards to the use of biological/chemical/radiological/Macguffin-esque weapons. Is genocide ever ok? Judging by the crew's reactions, it's pretty safe to say that regardless of what the Dominion's done, and they HAVE done some pretty awful stuff, the idea of wiping out the entire race still rubs a lot of folks the wrong way.

Anywho, I'm not sure if that answered anything or just muddied the waters... it's a confusing issue, to say the least.

#22 Guest_Ananke_*

Posted 14 August 2007 - 06:10 AM

Judging by the crew's reactions, it's pretty safe to say that regardless of what the Dominion's done, and they HAVE done some pretty awful stuff, the idea of wiping out the entire race still rubs a lot of folks the wrong way.

Anywho, I'm not sure if that answered anything or just muddied the waters... it's a confusing issue, to say the least.

Actually, no. :shock:

See, what I was asking was - take Tolkien's orcs. They are born of evil, rotten to the core, and whatnot. Killing them all would be practically an act of mercy, because the way Tolkien constructed his world, they are all damned. End of story.

I don't care if the orcs in your story are 2D villains just there to be fought against, really, as long as the good guys would have some qualms against wiping them all out, if they were in the position to do so. :wink:

So, with this minor quibble resolved, 'm awaiting for the next chapter, thank you. :wink:

#23 Weyoun

Posted 15 September 2007 - 09:47 PM

Do you transform into a handgun, or some stupid alien-looking jet? :(


There's only one Megatron and he's the one that's voiced by Frank Welker and has a big gun on his arm. :shock:

I do like the alien-jet Megatron. To tell you the truth, I love the Transformers game, because the new Megatron is voiced by Frank and not Hugo Weaving. I was giggling like a little girl when I first heard Frank do the voice of Megatron since 20 years ago! In the game, there's a code which turns Megatron into his G1 form, complete with the original series footstep sounds.

I own both the Masterpiece Megatron and the Movie Megatron toys. Of course, the G1 shaped Masterpiece Megatron is superior in every way, but the Movie Megatron is a very nice toy. It's solid and stands tall. Pretty big too.

Of course, Masterpiece Megatron is the one who deserves the place of honor next to my monitor. :cry:

Sure, there were parts of the movie I liked, but a lot of the time, it was one instance of F*#@$ you, Michael Bay, after another. :|


I think the movie was superb, though. I've seen it five times already, and for someone who never goes to cinema, that's saying something. Great visuals and I think the movie is most enjoyable if you let go of the G1 continuity and just see it as a separate entity. Black-out and Scoponok were among my favorites, as were Brawl and Bonecrusher. Could have done without the army side-plot, though. Wonderful toyline too, imo.
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