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#1 Guest_Theodur_*

Posted 11 August 2003 - 02:10 PM

Uh-oh… and so the fair Jaheira gets corrupted in this chapter… I hope that it works for you, my dear readers ;)

 

Rush Of Blood To The Head, part 5.6.

Once again we roam through the central and pretty much the only street of the svirfneblin village, I smile inwardly predicting the reactions of my friends in regards to my plan… I only hope that Jaheira won’t protest too much – it is only because of her that I did not inform my friends of the idea beforehand.

“This is the passage,” Jaheira stops and waves her head in the direction of a small side-tunnel.

“Good. However, we’re going that way,” I point the way that leads to the exit of the village.

“I do not understand. We do need that gem, remember?” Jaheira looks at me quizzically.

“Err… Jaheira?” Imoen interjects timidly, “Lo and behold!” With these words she produces a brightly shining gem from her pocket and quickly hides it again in order not to attract the attention.

“You… child, did you… steal the gem?” Jaheira asks in disbelief.

“I sure did, it was easier than steel a candy from a little child, hehe…” Imoen proudly declares, “Imoen, the thief extraordinaire at work!”

“What… what on earth possessed you to do that?” Jaheira continues her chastising.

“I did,” I reply instead of Imoen, “that was the plan, as simple as that. I distracted him and Immy took advantage while you all were staring at the portrait…”

“How cunning of you, abbil,” Viconia offers her praise, “I had no desire to do the bidding of lowly gnomes, the shear indignity of the very idea…”

“You do show at least some signs that would indicate that not all of your brain cells have completely atrophied,” Edwin adds.

“So… so, you just plan to go and leave these gnomes to their fate?” Jaheira looks at me angrily, “I… I am not sure if I can agree with this…”

“Jaheira… let me explain my reasons before you condemn me so quickly,” I take her by the hand and reluctantly she allows me to lead her a few paces away from the others.

“Do you think that Goldander has been honest with us or has he done all in his powers to solve this problem on their own?” I ask her quietly.

“I think he has not done enough and has been hiding truth from us, however that does not mean that we should answer him with a wrongful action of our own,” Jaheira looks at me accusingly, “Theodur… I do not know what to think. Is it really your decision or…”

“Jaheira… Bhaal has not taken over me, you can be sure about that… and I am only doing this to prevent him from ever taking over me,” I reply with certainty, considering the glare that I am facing, “tell me, why did they never actually tried to collapse that cavern upon the beast – it surely could not have made things worse if they have tried. Instead he has just been sitting with his hands in his lap, watching his comrades die and refusing to use a potential solution to his problem on the pretense that it ‘just might not work’…”

“That… that is true, but as I said – do we repay him with a betrayal, when it is help that he expects?” Jaheira is still trying to be convincing but I see that the doubts are creeping in her head…

“Betrayal? That is a touch too strong word to use, Jaheira,” I argue back, “and do you seriously believe that he does not know what type of monster they have released? I think he knows it all too well… Jaheira, he might be sending us to face a dragon or a… a Balor without us knowing it!”

Jaheira averts her piercing gaze and looks at the stone floor, as if unsure of what to say.

“I… I did not come here to lose you or to die myself doing some random errand… Jaheira, we have already taken too many risks, think of the mind flayers, and think of what is ahead of us - do we really want to pick a fight that we can avoid? And if I was to… lose you because of that… I could not forgive myself,” my hand lifts her chin upwards forcing her to look into my eyes as I speak, “Jaheira, maybe I am a selfish egotist and a bad man… but all I want to do is to avoid endangering you and myself without a necessity. I want us to survive this hell together… will you blame me for that?”

“No,” Jaheira manages a weary smile, “No, I can not blame you for that. And I do not think you a bad man or selfish, Theodur. I understand why you would want to do as such… I will not protest your decision. Even though, in my heart I wish we had helped them, I realize that we must help ourselves first. One thing, however…”

“What is it, dearest?” I smile with a sigh of relief.

“The scroll. You still have it and it is their only chance – you have to give it back to them,” she says.

“I had thought of that. I will give it to one of the guards at the entrance and ask him to return it to Goldander,” I reply and see recognition in her eyes “am I forgiven now?”

A sincere kiss is the most convincing response and it lasts for quite some time despite the comments coming from our companions…

 

The fair granithome has been left a fair way behind us as we now stand and face a dark entrance to a huge cavern, looming ahead of us. According to Goldander’s instructions this is our destination, the lair of the mysterious creature called Adalon.

I take the light gem from Imoen and holding it in my hand head into the darkness of the cavern, the others following me closely. For a long while we descend downwards surrounded by complete darkness and this time I am grateful for having those drops of elven blood in my veins… otherwise I would have as hard time as Edwin and Imoen who both stumble frequently and Edwin is even more frustrated by Viconia’s refusal to hold his hand…

The descent ends and gradually the cavern becomes more and more wider as we move forwards, it would seem that there is also a source of light ahead of us as the cavern around us has became brighter… Only this one slight turn ahead of us and then we will find out, who this Adalon really is…

The huge, at least forty feet tall creature that is sitting in the center of the huge cavern is indeed of a breathtaking beauty… a huge dragon, watching us with annoyed expression in its eyes.

“A Silver dragon…” Jaheira whispers, voice full of amazement.

“Welcome, welcome to my lair,” the wyrm addresses us in a booming voice, “I have watched your progress with great interest.”

“Errrm, what am I supposed to say?” I whisper to Jaheira, “I don’t know how to speak with a dragon.”

“Me neither, but I could try,” Jaheira looks rather pale, as she turns to address Adalon, “Thank you, My Lady.”

“Hold your tongue! My 'interest' does not mean my approval!” the anger in dragon’s voice makes my heart stop from fear, “In another time you would have encountered my tooth and claw instead of words! You have come here through trickery, without helping Goldander Blackenrock. He and his people will now fall to the Balor they unearthed.”

“Eeeeeep!” is Imoen’s reaction.

“Arrogant, self-righteous bitch,” Viconia mutters, “If she loves those damned svirfneblin so much, why does she not help them herself?”

“That is puzzling indeed,” Jaheira notes quietly, “perhaps she has her reasons…”

“A Balor… we couldn’t have taken him, even if we had attempted it…” I whisper, “Dearest, I hope you have no doubts about our chosen course of action? That is, if the dragon doesn’t eat us, eventually…”

Jaheira briefly nods before Adalon continues, “You are vile in many ways, but I have need of you,” Adalon speaks words that relieve a bit of the tension, I was already expecting her to slay us, “I am Adalon, the guardian of the ancient elven ruins above, a temple that marks a gateway to the Underdark.”

“So, there is exit to surface somewhere nearby… must keep that in mind,” Edwin mutters, not taking his eyes of the dragon.

“However, recent events have disrupted the fragile balance between the Drow and the surface elves, simply because I can no longer honor my commitment. I need your assistance and in return will grant you mine. The Drow of Ust Natha respected the borders of this place for centuries, only venturing out for sport and small skirmishes, never breaking the balance. However, those two you seek, this Bodhi and Jon Irenicus - I believe they have made a deal with the Drow for their own safe passage and offered a way to tip the scales against their Elven enemy,” Adalon explains.

“And this idiot in scales simply allowed them both to walk by, what an impeccable guardian she is,” Viconia snorts.

“I have to say, this is more complicated than I thought…” Jaheira sighs, “I had thought that silver dragons were ‘good’ and ‘righteous’, while this Adalon hardly seems to be that way…”

“You may ask why have I not done something to prevent it. I cannot do a thing as they have stolen my most prized possession, they have taken my eggs,” Adalon speaks and looks at us keenly.

“Umm… guys, I think she awaits some kind of ‘shocked’ reaction…” Imoen humbly suggests and immediately we fill the air with shouts of faked compassion and outrage…

“I have been informed that to move from my lair would mean the destruction of my eggs. It is the final straw in a long list of atrocities I have witnessed,” Adalon’s voice takes an angered tone.

“I suppose that is her excuse for not helping those svirfneblin weaklings,” Edwin snorts.

“Hmm, I don’t think that this gives her an excuse to reprimand us though – it’s not like we did not have anything to lose going against that Balor, whereas for her it would have been an easy battle,” I note.

“I know. She had her eggs to lose, I had you to lose…” Jaheira whispers to me, “we are no more in the wrong as she is, it seems like it is always about us making sacrifices… I am glad you convinced us against fighting the demon, though I still wish we could help the gnomes...”

“You must retrieve the eggs for me – if you do this, I will reveal a safe escape route out of the Underdark and it will lead you close to the place where Irenicus plots his next move. Additionally, I will consider rewarding you with an item from my horde and it will be an incredibly powerful item – even though I am unsure if you will use it to achieve righteous goals.”

“An elven temple and Irenicus plans his move nearby… she must be speaking of Suldanessellar,” Jaheira muses.

“How can we retrieve your eggs, we cannot face an entire Drow city… we will be slaughtered the next moment we walk through the gate…” I point to Adalon.

“Nothing so brutish, there is a much more subtle way to success. You will assume the identity of a group of Drow I dispatched recently, a war party heading from Chad Nesad to Ust Natha,” Adalon explains the plan.

“To become a Drow… I am not looking forward to that,” Jaheira sighs, “perhaps it will help me better understand the reasons for Viconia’s lack of morals …”

“You should look forward to that, Jaheira, it will be an improvement on your current form,” Viconia smirks.

“Cast your magic, Adalon,” I speak, “I am not ready, but I doubt I will ever be ready to become a Drow… let the masquerade begin!”

#2 Guest_Bjorn_*

Posted 11 August 2003 - 03:02 PM

Uh-oh… and so the fair Jaheira gets corrupted in this chapter… I hope that it works for you, my dear readers :P


:) She's pretty corrupt already really, in this story.

Once again we roam through the central and pretty much the only street of the svirfneblin village, I smile inwardly predicting the reactions of my friends in regards to my plan… I only hope that Jaheira won’t protest too much – it is only because of her that I did not inform my friends of the idea beforehand.


Well, the fact that he delayed telling her about it isn't going to make her very happy ;)

“You do show at least some signs that would indicate that not all of your brain cells have completely atrophied,” Edwin adds.


heh, I didn't see Edwin thinking of any plan. How are your braincells doing, eddie?

“So… so, you just plan to go and leave these gnomes to their fate?” Jaheira looks at me angrily, “I… I am not sure if I can agree with this…”


You tell him, Jaheira :P .

“Betrayal? That is a touch too strong word to use, Jaheira,” I argue back, “and do you seriously believe that he does not know what type of monster they have released? I think he knows it all too well… Jaheira, he might be sending us to face a dragon or a… a Balor without us knowing it!”


you could at least have had a look, though. Or pressed him for more details or something.

“No,” Jaheira manages a weary smile, “No, I can not blame you for that. And I do not think you a bad man or selfish, Theodur. I understand why you would want to do as such… I will not protest your decision. Even though, in my heart I wish we had helped them, I realize that we must help ourselves first. One thing, however…”


:) Poor gnomes.

“The scroll. You still have it and it is their only chance – you have to give it back to them,” she says.


Good point.

“I had thought of that. I will give it to one of the guards at the entrance and ask him to return it to Goldander,” I reply and see recognition in her eyes “am I forgiven now?”


Heh, had Theo really thought of that, or is he just trying to get on her good side again?

“Hold your tongue! My 'interest' does not mean my approval!” the anger in dragon’s voice makes my heart stop from fear, “In another time you would have encountered my tooth and claw instead of words! You have come here through trickery, without helping Goldander Blackenrock. He and his people will now fall to the Balor they unearthed.”


:? Poor gnomes. Glad she's telling him off, though. She should make him go back and help the gnomes before she lets him into the drow city.

“Arrogant, self-righteous bitch,” Viconia mutters, “If she loves those damned svirfneblin so much, why does she not help them herself?”


To be fair, I doubt she'd fit in the cave where the balor is, would she? Plus she's understandably more concerned with her eggs right now.

“A Balor… we couldn’t have taken him, even if we had attempted it…” I whisper, “Dearest, I hope you have no doubts about our chosen course of action? That is, if the dragon doesn’t eat us, eventually…”


Would serve you right if she did, Theo :?

“And this idiot in scales simply allowed them both to walk by, what an impeccable guardian she is,” Viconia snorts.


Does Vic want to be eaten?

“I have to say, this is more complicated than I thought…” Jaheira sighs, “I had thought that silver dragons were ‘good’ and ‘righteous’, while this Adalon hardly seems to be that way…”


Think it's more a case of dragons having different priorities from humans, really. To a dragon, whether good or evil, a few gnomes/humans/whatever probably seems fairly insignificant.

Plus to be honest I think it's a bit of a cheek for jaheira to criticise someone for not been good and righteous. :?

“You may ask why have I not done something to prevent it. I cannot do a thing as they have stolen my most prized possession, they have taken my eggs,” Adalon speaks and looks at us keenly.


“Umm… guys, I think she awaits some kind of ‘shocked’ reaction…” Imoen humbly suggests and immediately we fill the air with shouts of faked compassion and outrage…


:) Come on theo, you keep going on about how concerned you are for your friends - you should be able to understand her worry about her eggs.

“I know. She had her eggs to lose, I had you to lose…” Jaheira whispers to me, “we are no more in the wrong as she is, it seems like it is always about us making sacrifices… I am glad you convinced us against fighting the demon, though I still wish we could help the gnomes...”


hey, be fair, she definitely loses her eggs if she tries whereas they have a chance of killing the balor and surviving the experience.

“How can we retrieve your eggs, we cannot face an entire Drow city… we will be slaughtered the next moment we walk through the gate…” I point to Adalon.


Uh...Theo? Wasn't it you who refused to look for a way out of the Underdark until you'd gone into the drow city and found Irenicus?

Nice chapter. I thought Jaheira agreeing to theo's plan was convincing enough - only thing I thought might have come up was that Jaheira would definitely see a balor as an 'affront to nature' and might want to fight it for that reason.

Can't say I really agree with Theo's reasons for disliking Adalon, but I doubt that surprises you too much :(. It's definitely in character for Theo to not like people who try to tell him what to do, anyway.

So, is this the last we'll hear of the gnomes, or do you plan to find some other way to save them?

#3 Guest_Theodur_*

Posted 11 August 2003 - 04:48 PM

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:? She's pretty corrupt already really, in this story.
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Mind you, I have put her through quite a torture already and Theo has been on the receiving end as well... I really feel for them both.

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Once again we roam through the central and pretty much the only street of the svirfneblin village, I smile inwardly predicting the reactions of my friends in regards to my plan… I only hope that Jaheira won’t protest too much – it is only because of her that I did not inform my friends of the idea beforehand.
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Well, the fact that he delayed telling her about it isn't going to make her very happy ;)
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No, not really. But Theo has a better shot at convincing her when she makes her face the fact that has already happened.

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heh, I didn't see Edwin thinking of any plan. How are your braincells doing, eddie?
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Aw, Eddie always has a cunning plan up his sleeve... its just that nobody asked him to share, I'm sure.

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“So… so, you just plan to go and leave these gnomes to their fate?” Jaheira looks at me angrily, “I… I am not sure if I can agree with this…”
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Don't bet on her being too insistent - the nature of their relationship + the whole Spellhold angst means that she would not be chiding Theo as strongly as she would have done normally.

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“Betrayal? That is a touch too strong word to use, Jaheira,” I argue back, “and do you seriously believe that he does not know what type of monster they have released? I think he knows it all too well… Jaheira, he might be sending us to face a dragon or a… a Balor without us knowing it!”
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That is correct. But then, Theo doesn't care too much - surely, if it was not something very dangerous the gnomes could have coped with it?

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“No,” Jaheira manages a weary smile, “No, I can not blame you for that. And I do not think you a bad man or selfish, Theodur. I understand why you would want to do as such… I will not protest your decision. Even though, in my heart I wish we had helped them, I realize that we must help ourselves first. One thing, however…”
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:( Poor gnomes.
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Well, let's not take their deaths for granted yet, shall we?

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“The scroll. You still have it and it is their only chance – you have to give it back to them,” she says.
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Yep, taking the scroll would be really mean.

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“I had thought of that. I will give it to one of the guards at the entrance and ask him to return it to Goldander,” I reply and see recognition in her eyes “am I forgiven now?”
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No, he is honest here. :)

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“Hold your tongue! My 'interest' does not mean my approval!” the anger in dragon’s voice makes my heart stop from fear, “In another time you would have encountered my tooth and claw instead of words! You have come here through trickery, without helping Goldander Blackenrock. He and his people will now fall to the Balor they unearthed.”
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:( Poor gnomes. Glad she's telling him off, though. She should make him go back and help the gnomes before she lets him into the drow city.
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Yes, but doing that would delay the rescue of her eggs and perhaps Theo would decide that he does not want to deal with Adalon at all... to me, this shows Adalon's selfishness.

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“Arrogant, self-righteous bitch,” Viconia mutters, “If she loves those damned svirfneblin so much, why does she not help them herself?”
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I think that dragons can take various shapes, I certainly know that both Firky and Adalon could shapeshift in human forms - I think they can take a whole range of different forms. I am fairly concerned that Adalon could deal with a Balor easily, if she had wished.

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“A Balor… we couldn’t have taken him, even if we had attempted it…” I whisper, “Dearest, I hope you have no doubts about our chosen course of action? That is, if the dragon doesn’t eat us, eventually…”
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Would serve you right if she did, Theo :P
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Weeeeell... he deserves a little beating, that I would admit. :P

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Ack. That was a very quiet snort. Adalon didn't hear that. :P

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“I have to say, this is more complicated than I thought…” Jaheira sighs, “I had thought that silver dragons were ‘good’ and ‘righteous’, while this Adalon hardly seems to be that way…”
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True, but it sounds rather... eh, awkward, that she points it out to Theo - as if him not caring for the gnomes was a grand crime, whereas for her it is understandable and forgivable. I'd imagine that woul not sit well with Theo.

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Ah, but then she is not criticising her for that. She is critisizing her for not being good and righteous and still judging them on basis of her moral superiority. That's darn insulting, mind you. :P

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Well, I think at the moment they are all concerned to get ouf the lair alive... that's the dominating emotion. They would be able to understand her more, if there was not a very real threat of death, facing them.

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“I know. She had her eggs to lose, I had you to lose…” Jaheira whispers to me, “we are no more in the wrong as she is, it seems like it is always about us making sacrifices… I am glad you convinced us against fighting the demon, though I still wish we could help the gnomes...”
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That's partly true. Not so sure, though - would Irenicus or the Drow care if she would leave her lair to kill the Balor and save gnomes? Probably not as it doesn't interfere with their plans.

Unless, of course Irenicus simply put some kind of ward at the door of her lair that would warn the Drow immediately when Adalon leaves. Hmm, at this point it is only a speculation.

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“How can we retrieve your eggs, we cannot face an entire Drow city… we will be slaughtered the next moment we walk through the gate…” I point to Adalon.
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Well, even he would not crash through the gate to get inside... he just hopes that Addy has a plan. And she has!

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Well, she didn't know it then... and she's not going back now... :?

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I have to say, I don't like Adalon much, myself. Same thing that rubs me the wrong way with Mazzy. And Theo was never going to like her, knowing his character - mind you, he will not be thrilled about Elhan, Demin or Elly, either...

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They will be mentioned in next chapters. Remember, there is still a svirf patrol to kill. *groan* No! Theo will not be doing that one in the evil way, that much I guarantee!

Thanks for commenting! and I promise that Theo's behavior will soon improve... there's just something about Underdark that brings out the worst in our Bhaalspawns.

#4 Guest_H'kira the Wolf_*

Posted 11 August 2003 - 05:14 PM

Uh-oh… and so the fair Jaheira gets corrupted in this chapter… I hope that it works for you, my dear readers :D


Mwahahaha... :roll:

“Err… Jaheira?” Imoen interjects timidly, “Lo and behold!” With these words she produces a brightly shining gem from her pocket and quickly hides it again in order not to attract the attention.


Go Im!

“I had thought of that. I will give it to one of the guards at the entrance and ask him to return it to Goldander,” I reply and see recognition in her eyes “am I forgiven now?”

A sincere kiss is the most convincing response and it lasts for quite some time despite the comments coming from our companions…


Yep...they're still cute...

“Eeeeeep!” is Imoen’s reaction.

“Arrogant, self-righteous bitch,” Viconia mutters, “If she loves those damned svirfneblin so much, why does she not help them herself?”


I agree with Vico.

“Umm… guys, I think she awaits some kind of ‘shocked’ reaction…” Imoen humbly suggests and immediately we fill the air with shouts of faked compassion and outrage…


*gasps* The sheer indignity of it all. Immy is so clever :lol:

“To become a Drow… I am not looking forward to that,” Jaheira sighs, “perhaps it will help me better understand the reasons for Viconia’s lack of morals …”

“You should look forward to that, Jaheira, it will be an improvement on your current form,” Viconia smirks.

“Cast your magic, Adalon,” I speak, “I am not ready, but I doubt I will ever be ready to become a Drow… let the masquerade begin!”


This is going to be interesting :lol:

And sorry about the lack of replies on previous stories, Theo. Been busy getting ready for college, haven't had much time to read or review anything.

H'kira n' the Wolf

#5 Guest_Theodur_*

Posted 11 August 2003 - 05:27 PM

Uh-oh… and so the fair Jaheira gets corrupted in this chapter… I hope that it works for you, my dear readers ;)


Mwahahaha... :roll:


Hehe... well, it's not like Jaheira's turning evil or something... just a bit more... selfish... :lol:

“Err… Jaheira?” Imoen interjects timidly, “Lo and behold!” With these words she produces a brightly shining gem from her pocket and quickly hides it again in order not to attract the attention.


Go Im!


Yep, Immy is a master rogue!

A sincere kiss is the most convincing response and it lasts for quite some time despite the comments coming from our companions…


Yep...they're still cute...


Bad and cute - heh, I get the feeling they are turning into Bonnie and Clyde.


“Arrogant, self-righteous bitch,” Viconia mutters, “If she loves those damned svirfneblin so much, why does she not help them herself?”


I agree with Vico.


she has a point, but then so does Addy... :D

“Umm… guys, I think she awaits some kind of ‘shocked’ reaction…” Imoen humbly suggests and immediately we fill the air with shouts of faked compassion and outrage…


*gasps* The sheer indignity of it all. Immy is so clever :lol:


Well, that's one lazy dragon who can't keep her eggs guarded.


“Cast your magic, Adalon,” I speak, “I am not ready, but I doubt I will ever be ready to become a Drow… let the masquerade begin!”


This is going to be interesting :)


Oh, I think it will... angsty too...

And sorry about the lack of replies on previous stories, Theo. Been busy getting ready for college, haven't had much time to read or review anything.


H'kira n' the Wolf


Ah, that's alright. Been missing your stories - hope that with the start of the college you'll have a bit more free time.

Thanks for dropping by! :?

#6 Guest_argan_*

Posted 11 August 2003 - 05:34 PM

Theodur is really a damn bastard.

Good chapter, anyway :roll:

#7 Guest_Theodur_*

Posted 11 August 2003 - 06:08 PM

Theodur is really a damn bastard.


He's not your average hero-type, that's for sure. Mind you, I don't think that I would call him evil, though.

Good chapter, anyway :roll:


Thanks :lol:

#8 Darkwolf Shadowwalker

Posted 11 August 2003 - 06:53 PM

Jaheira can always do with a little corrupting :roll:

And I never much liked that dragon either :lol: Now that you mention it, she does remind me of Mazzy.

#9 Guest_Theodur_*

Posted 11 August 2003 - 07:39 PM

Jaheira can always do with a little corrupting :lol:


Oh, yes! Though that would more apply to Vantrel's Jaheira... Theo's is already pretty... corrupted... :roll:

And I never much liked that dragon either :lol: Now that you mention it, she does remind me of Mazzy.


Haughty, self-righteous, hypocritical... all traits that I see in Mazzy are present in Addy too.

Thanks for reading and commenting :D

#10 Guest_Bjorn_*

Posted 11 August 2003 - 07:55 PM

Uh-oh… and so the fair Jaheira gets corrupted in this chapter… I hope that it works for you, my dear readers :roll:



;) She's pretty corrupt already really, in this story.


Mind you, I have put her through quite a torture already and Theo has been on the receiving end as well... I really feel for them both.


Yep, I sympathise with them too, but I can't help but feel slightly resentful of Jaheira for the cheating on Khalid thing.


:? Poor gnomes.


Well, let's not take their deaths for granted yet, shall we?


So you're going to save them? Yay! :P


:) Come on theo, you keep going on about how concerned you are for your friends - you should be able to understand her worry about her eggs.


Well, I think at the moment they are all concerned to get ouf the lair alive... that's the dominating emotion. They would be able to understand her more, if there was not a very real threat of death, facing them.


Fair enough I suppose :lol:


hey, be fair, she definitely loses her eggs if she tries whereas they have a chance of killing the balor and surviving the experience.


That's partly true. Not so sure, though - would Irenicus or the Drow care if she would leave her lair to kill the Balor and save gnomes? Probably not as it doesn't interfere with their plans.


Unless, of course Irenicus simply put some kind of ward at the door of her lair that would warn the Drow immediately when Adalon leaves. Hmm, at this point it is only a speculation.


Well, I doubt the drow would wait to see where she was going really. they'd probably just destroy her eggs as soon as they found she'd left the cave. And then they'd probably try to kill as well, for good measure.

I have to say, I don't like Adalon much, myself. Same thing that rubs me the wrong way with Mazzy. And Theo was never going to like her, knowing his character - mind you, he will not be thrilled about Elhan, Demin or Elly, either...


I don't know - I mean, I admit Adalon shares some of Mazzy's more annoying character traits but in her case I reckon it's understandable for a dragon to act a bit superior. Plus I do feel sorry for her, having to spend her life stuck in a cave in the Underdark away from her own kind and mourning her dead mate. I can see why under those circumstances she would value her eggs so much.

Elhan, though, I can't stand. I'll be 100% behind theo there :D .


So, is this the last we'll hear of the gnomes, or do you plan to find some other way to save them?


They will be mentioned in next chapters. Remember, there is still a svirf patrol to kill. *groan* No! Theo will not be doing that one in the evil way, that much I guarantee!


Glad to hear it :lol:

#11 Guest_Theodur_*

Posted 12 August 2003 - 05:47 AM


Mind you, I have put her through quite a torture already and Theo has been on the receiving end as well... I really feel for them both.


Yep, I sympathise with them too, but I can't help but feel slightly resentful of Jaheira for the cheating on Khalid thing.


That I can understand. Some of the chapters to come might change your view on her, though.


Well, let's not take their deaths for granted yet, shall we?


So you're going to save them? Yay! :shock:


Err. I only said that they won't die...


I have to say, I don't like Adalon much, myself. Same thing that rubs me the wrong way with Mazzy. And Theo was never going to like her, knowing his character - mind you, he will not be thrilled about Elhan, Demin or Elly, either...


I don't know - I mean, I admit Adalon shares some of Mazzy's more annoying character traits but in her case I reckon it's understandable for a dragon to act a bit superior. Plus I do feel sorry for her, having to spend her life stuck in a cave in the Underdark away from her own kind and mourning her dead mate. I can see why under those circumstances she would value her eggs so much.


Well, I also can understand and feel a bit sorry for her, but that somehow does not translate into me liking her... besides, Theo doesn't know the whole story about her dead mate and why exactly are these particular eggs so important.

Elhan, though, I can't stand. I'll be 100% behind theo there :D .


*evil cackle* :)

#12 Guest_argan_*

Posted 12 August 2003 - 09:47 AM

Theodur is really a damn bastard.


He's not your average hero-type, that's for sure. Mind you, I don't think that I would call him evil, though.

I think I would call him neutral evil. Always doing things for his own gain.


Good chapter, anyway :)


Thanks :D



#13 Guest_Theodur_*

Posted 12 August 2003 - 10:26 AM

Theodur is really a damn bastard.



He's not your average hero-type, that's for sure. Mind you, I don't think that I would call him evil, though.


I think I would call him neutral evil. Always doing things for his own gain.


Uh, I don't know. What you describe is selfishness and egotism, which are not good traits of the character, but I don't see them as necessary evil. It's hard to define what is evil, but I would for example consider a character who enjoys inflicting pain on suffering on others as evil. Theo is none of this, imo.

I'd call him Neutral Selfish. Actually, I don't consider my Edwin or Viconia particularly evil, either... Eddie looks more like Chaotic Greedy to me... :)

#14 Guest_argan_*

Posted 12 August 2003 - 10:43 AM

Theodur is really a damn bastard.



He's not your average hero-type, that's for sure. Mind you, I don't think that I would call him evil, though.


I think I would call him neutral evil. Always doing things for his own gain.


Uh, I don't know. What you describe is selfishness and egotism, which are not good traits of the character, but I don't see them as necessary evil. It's hard to define what is evil, but I would for example consider a character who enjoys inflicting pain on suffering on others as evil. Theo is none of this, imo.

I'd call him Neutral Selfish. Actually, I don't consider my Edwin or Viconia particularly evil, either... Eddie looks more like Chaotic Greedy to me... :)



I think being selfish and egoistic and doing things just for his/her own gain qualifies as NE. I might be wrong though. Will check it up later.

#15 Guest_Theodur_*

Posted 12 August 2003 - 11:15 AM

I think being selfish and egoistic and doing things just for his/her own gain qualifies as NE. I might be wrong though. Will check it up later.


Actually, you've given me an idea. Before the next chapter I will post a question, asking the readers to determine Theo's alignment. So, let's leave all the discussions at least until... Thursday, ok? :)

#16 Guest_argan_*

Posted 12 August 2003 - 11:48 AM


I think being selfish and egoistic and doing things just for his/her own gain qualifies as NE. I might be wrong though. Will check it up later.


Actually, you've given me an idea. Before the next chapter I will post a question, asking the readers to determine Theo's alignment. So, let's leave all the discussions at least until... Thursday, ok? :)


Neutral Evil

Neutral Evil characters are primarily concerned with themselves and their own advancement. They have no particular objection to working with others or, for that matter, doing it on their own. Their only interest is in getting ahead. If there is a quick and easy way to gain a profit, whether it is legal, questionable, or obviously illegal, they take advantage of it. Although Neutral Evil characters do not have the "every man for himself" attitude of chaotic characters, they have no qualms about betraying their friends and companions for personal gain. They typically base their allegiance on power and money, which makes them quite receptive to bribes. An unscrupulous mercenary, a common thief, and a double-crossing informer who betrays people to the authorities to protect and advance himself are typical examples of Neutral Evil characters.



:D

Some parts may be overexaggarated when it comes to Theodur, but mostly I think it fits.

#17 Guest_Ursula_*

Posted 12 August 2003 - 04:31 PM

Uh-oh… and so the fair Jaheira gets corrupted in this chapter… I hope that it works for you, my dear readers 8)

But of course! You are the artiste; I am but a humble reader.

And speaking of which, it seems like Jaheira (and the party, for that matter) are not corrupt, but rather Mr Mayor & Adalon are. You raise a number of good points here about their relative morality.

The next chapter will be a real pip. I wonder whether the party'll reveal treachery on the dragon's part (or maybe she's just a red in disguise...or maybe her boyfriend was a red, or maybe...).

Liked this. Thanks for sharing. :twisted:

#18 Guest_Theodur_*

Posted 12 August 2003 - 07:09 PM

Uh-oh… and so the fair Jaheira gets corrupted in this chapter… I hope that it works for you, my dear readers :twisted:

But of course! You are the artiste; I am but a humble reader.


And speaking of which, it seems like Jaheira (and the party, for that matter) are not corrupt, but rather Mr Mayor & Adalon are. You raise a number of good points here about their relative morality.


Ah, good! That's the kind of reaction I was expecting - I really enjoyed playing with the topic of relative morality.

The next chapter will be a real pip. I wonder whether the party'll reveal treachery on the dragon's part (or maybe she's just a red in disguise...or maybe her boyfriend was a red, or maybe...).


Heh, nothing so dramatic. For now both parties are quite content to use each other to achieve their goals. Whether in the end both parties are satisfied... now, that is the question... 8)

Liked this. Thanks for sharing. :twisted:


My pleasure and thanks for reviewing! :twisted:




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