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#1 Laufey

Posted 01 December 2001 - 03:49 PM

Edwin: Well, I'm back. What else needs to be said really? (I'm sure they were all devastated by my tragic death in the previous installment.)

Laufey: Ah, there is the opportunity for PC to make you...

Edwin: Don't spoil it! (Writers. Really.)

Laufey: Fine. I'll just add that I wrote in the kidnapping journal entries, modified from Bioware's version into something different. All comments will be appreciated! ;) Oh, and there is some mushy stuff ahead... :)

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Journal Entry made after Edwin is taken by Bodhi

The Final Battle with Bodhi.

Bodhi ambushed me before I reached her graveyard hideout, doing her best to taunt me into a blind rage, her every word designed to enflame my senses. With the loss of my soul the taint of Bhaal is closer to the surface than ever. Perhaps she was counting on that, perhaps not. Whatever the case she has gained the upper hand for now, and my losses continue to mount. My hand shakes with murderous fury as I write this, for Bodhi has stolen Edwin away from me, no doubt planning to use him as a pawn in her gambit against me. I see no choice but to continue on my chosen path, but I fear terribly for my beloved's life and soul. I wish I could believe he will be careful not to provoke her into hurting him, but I know him too well to dare entertain those hopes…

Journal Entry made after Vampire Edwin appears

The Final Battle with Bodhi

Bodhi has turned Edwin into a vampire! Or... or very nearly. The process may not have been completed in the short time Bodhi has had him. Hopefully something can be done or I will have lost him. Perhaps the elven war sage might know some way of restoration... or Elhan...

I don't know. My mind is gray with despair. I had already lost my soul. But now…now I fear I may have lost my heart as well. Seeing him like that was terrible. There was such pain in his eyes, and confusion. And a dullness, as if the thing that made him Edwin had been lost forever. He always wanted powers from beyond the grave, and immortality. The irony of it is hard and cruel. I…I can write no further at this time.

Edwin Resurrection

Condition: Player has placed Bodhi's Heart and Edwin's Body (See Appendix A) into the Amaunator altar.

ALTAR, Dialogue #1: The altar hums softly for a moment, but then it grows silent once more. It seems to be expecting something more. You try desperately to think of what else could be used to draw Edwin's spirit back to you. Perhaps his suspicious nature will not trust entirely in the benevolence of a strange God, but if he could feel your own presence that might help…

Condition: PC still has the item CHARNAME'S Lock of Hair in inventory. =>2

Condition: PC doesn't have CHARNAME'S Lock of Hair. =>3

ALTAR, Dialogue #2: A faint glow startles you. It seems to be coming from the talisman that Edwin gave you as a token of his love. Your hair entangled with his own like two souls entwined in love. As you touch the hair you know what to do. You can feel Edwin's presence through the talisman, reaching for your own. The charm will be a beacon to guide him home, if you choose to give it up. It could be dangerous, however. A part of you will travel outside your body to the lands of the dead. You don't want to lose it permanently.

A: Place CHARNAME'S Lock of Hair on Altar. =>4. Resurrect Edwin. Talisman is destroyed.

B: Choose to keep talisman for yourself. =>3

ALTAR, Dialogue #3: The lock of hair that Edwin enchanted might have been enough to guide his spirit home. That is not an option, but could there be another way? Edwin wasn't fully turned into a vampire, but part of those instincts should have been transmitted. And your blood carries the spark of divinity, enough to lure any vampire closer. It will be risky however, and suddenly you know that if you want Edwin back you will need to give up a part of your own strength.

A: Cut yourself, let a few drops of your blood flow onto the altar. => 4, Lose One Point of Constitution permanently. Resurrect Edwin.

B: Step away from the altar. => Dialogue ends

EDWIN, Dialogue #4: You…you came for me. I could feel you there, through the cold and the pain, reaching out for me. It…it was what kept me sane, I think. And…and you were prepared to sacrifice something that important…for me?

CHARNAME, I hardly know what to say. Part of me wants to berate your stupidity in risking yourself for my sake, but the greater part of me wants nothing less than to kiss you senseless and spend the rest of my life making it all up to you.

A: Don't you ever think yourself unworthy of any sacrifice I may choose to make for you, Edwin. I love you. I thought losing my soul was the worst that could ever happen to me, but that was before I lost you. =>5

B: * sniff * Now…now don't you go all mushy on me, Eddie. I…I'm not sure I can handle that right now. I love you and I missed you so terribly, I need to be certain you're really you and not just a dream. =>5

C: The only stupidity here was on your part. How could you let Bodhi kidnap you like that? Are you a complete incompetent moron? =>6

EDWIN, Dialogue #5: I love you too, my deva, and I will continue to do so for as long as you let me. Your love drew me back from…no, I will not describe it. It was a nightmare, full of darkness, despair and pain. May you never see its like. And it made me doubt my own previous goals.

I always thought power would be worth any sacrifice. I wouldn't have risked the Nether Scroll otherwise. But now I have seen what undeath is really like, and I wonder if I may have been mistaken. (Don't make too much of it. It won't be a common occurrence.) I feel I need your advice on this. Bodhi was prepared to destroy me, simply in order to get to you. And it would be so easy for me to become like her, or her brother. Could it be that there are some ambitions better left unfulfilled? That winning isn't everything?

A: I think you have made an important discovery, and I agree with you. I love you, and I want you to succeed at whatever you do, but not at the price of you turning into another Irenicus. =>8

B: Yes. Winning is certainly important, and so is power. But what use is it to become omnipotent if you give up all your friends and loved ones in the process? =>8

C: No, of course not. You shouldn't worry about it. I fully intend to harness any power I can get my hands on, at any cost. And so should you. All else is folly. =>9

EDWIN, Dialogue #6: It appears I have been stupid about many things, deceiving myself. Will you at least accept me back into the group? It is rather cold and damp here, and I would prefer some company rather than traversing this place on my own.

A: Fine, you may rejoin the group. Just watch your step in the future, loser. =>Dialogue ends, Edwin rejoins group, set EDWINROMANCE=3. Make journal entry The Final Battle with Bodhi.

B: Forget it. I have no room for you at the moment. =>7

EDWIN, Dialogue #7: I see. You have made yourself abundantly clear, CHARNAME. Should you ever need me I will probably be at the Copper Coronet. => Dialogue ends, Edwin leaves for Copper Coronet, set EDWINROMANCE=3. Make journal entry The Final Battle with Bodhi.

EDWIN, Dialogue #8: I feel…different inside. Different in a good way. Your words may have changed me, my deva, but my feelings for you remain constant. I would remain at your side, to prove that every day. (And every night. Yes indeed.) Will you have me back? Switch Edwin's Alignment to Chaotic Neutral

A: Of course I will. I love you, and I wouldn't be able to carry on without you, you know. =>10

B: * grin * Don't be silly. I just carried your lifeless body all the way from Athkatla and into this dreary old dungeon. I'm not about to give you up that easily. =>10

C: Er…actually the party is pretty much complete at the moment. Maybe later. =>11

EDWIN, Dialouge #9: Yes, I see your point, my deva. It was a temporary weakness, no doubt caused by Resurrection Sickness. * cough * I should be myself in a moment or so. I want nothing more than to return to my proper place at your side. (And absolute and total power, as well as a pointy hat, but that will have to wait for later.) Will you have me back?

A: Of course I will. I love you, and I wouldn't be able to carry on without you, you know. =>10

B: * grin * Don't be silly. I just carried your lifeless body all the way from Athkatla and into this dreary old dungeon. I'm not about to give you up that easily. =>10

C: Er…actually the party is pretty much complete at the moment. Maybe later. =>11

EDWIN, Dialogue #10: Then we should get going. Oh, and CHARNAME? I hope you haven't got any fixed plans for tonight. I was hoping to exchange a few love-bites of the more pleasant variety. Did you keep any vampire parts, by the way? I really could use some for spell components… =>Dialogue ends, Edwin rejoins party. Make journal entry The Final Battle with Bodhi.

EDWIN, Dialogue #11: Later? LATER?! But I thought that… Oh, never mind. I'm going back to the Copper Coronet, if you care. You should be able to find me there later, but don't expect me to wait up for you. => Dialogue ends, Edwin leaves for Copper Coronet. Make journal entry The Final Battle with Bodhi.

The Final Battle with Bodhi

While I had feared for some time that Bodhi's final revenge on me would be to take away Edwin forever, it seems that the information in the lorebook was right... Amaunator's idol has restored Edwin not only to life, but has removed the vampiric curse from him, as well.

As for Bodhi, I almost feel like resurrecting her as well, if only to be able to say 'Take that, sucker.' Oh, well. At least she will be good for something now. I only had to use the heart, and I think Edwin is going to be quite happy about his growing collection of disgusting vampiric spell components.

Appendix A

Edwin's Body

Item picture can be any of several 'body' pictures, preferably with red color added in for clothing.

Description: Edwin was captured by Bodhi and infected with vampirism, forcing you to slay him. There may be some way to revive him, though you don't know what it would be. But you have a feeling you had better find one quickly, before his family finds out about this.


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#2 Guest_Lord E_*

Posted 01 December 2001 - 04:38 PM

This is really moving. Awwww...

> Edwin: Well, I'm back. What else needs to be said really? (I'm sure they

> were all devastated by my tragic death in the previous installment.)

LOL

> I wish I could believe he

> will be careful not to provoke her into hurting him, but I know him too

> well to dare entertain those hopes…

Aye, at this point the PC knows Eddie well :)

> And a

> dullness, as if the thing that made him Edwin had been lost forever. He

> always wanted powers from beyond the grave, and immortality. The irony of

> it is hard and cruel. I…I can write no further at this time.

Augh

Liked the sacrifice bit. It adds to the meaningfulness and depth of the romance.

EDWIN, Dialogue #4: You…you

> came for me. I could feel you there, through the cold and the pain,

> reaching out for me. It…it was what kept me sane, I think.

Well, relatively speaking.

> A: Don't you ever think yourself unworthy of any sacrifice I may choose to

> make for you, Edwin. I love you. I thought losing my soul was the worst

> that could ever happen to me, but that was before I lost you. =>5

> B: * sniff * Now…now don't you go all mushy on me, Eddie. I…I'm not sure I

> can handle that right now. I love you and I missed you so terribly, I need

> to be certain you're really you and not just a dream. =>5

awwwww

> EDWIN, Dialogue #5: I love you too, my deva, and I will continue to do

> so for as long as you let me. Your love drew me back from…no, I will not

> describe it. It was a nightmare, full of darkness, despair and pain. May

> you never see its like. And it made me doubt my own previous goals.

Sarevok: Some of us need harsher convincing to change our outlook than others.

> Switch Edwin's Alignment to Chaotic

> Neutral

Out of curiosity, why CN? (He was lawful before). I can see that you wouldn't want him LN (neither would I, for chrissake), and Edwin goody-goody - nah.

> Description: Edwin was captured by Bodhi and infected with vampirism,

> forcing you to slay him. There may be some way to revive him, though you

> don't know what it would be. But you have a feeling you had better find

> one quickly, before his family finds out about this.

Oh, I bet Mama Odesseiron would be thrilled.

"Um hi, Mums-in-law. There is a slight problem. Your son has been turned into a vampire..."



#3 Laufey

Posted 01 December 2001 - 04:50 PM

> This is really moving. Awwww...

Thank you! ;)

> Aye, at this point the PC knows Eddie well ;)

That she does...

> Out of curiosity, why CN? (He was lawful before). I can see that you

> wouldn't want him LN (neither would I, for chrissake), and Edwin

> goody-goody - nah.

LN doesn't seem to fit, after all I made Eddie deliberately disobey orders to keep PC safe earlier on. I thought about TN, but couldn't see him as dedicated to being balanced of all things. CN means I can make him act the way I want him to at any particular moment, without feeling restricted by alignment. (And making him any kind of good would feel like stretching things a bit too far.) :)

> Oh, I bet Mama Odesseiron would be thrilled.

> "Um hi, Mums-in-law. There is a slight problem. Your son has been

> turned into a vampire..."

Elvira Odesseiron: That's it. You're *toast*, girlie!


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#4 Arcalian

Posted 01 December 2001 - 05:12 PM

One wonders how CN Edwin would get along with CN Anomen, not to mention Jan and H'D. Heheheheh.

The road to the abyss may be paved with good intentions, but it is those with bad intentions that race down that road as fast as they can.

#5 Laufey

Posted 01 December 2001 - 05:19 PM

> One wonders how CN Edwin would get along with CN Anomen, not to mention

> Jan and H'D. Heheheheh.

Well, not sure about Jan, but me and Requiem and Jeanette are weaving quite a tangled web of jealousy between the other three boys. (But of course at this point in the romance the PC has already chosen her mate anyway)


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#6 Weyoun

Posted 01 December 2001 - 07:46 PM

> Edwin: Well, I'm back. What else needs to be said really? (I'm sure they

> were all devastated by my tragic death in the previous installment.)

Errrrr... *looks sheepish* Yeah... devastated... That's what it was... I think... Either that, or indigestion... :)

> Laufey: Ah, there is the opportunity for PC to make you...

Happy? Ecologically sound? Do a summer-sault? Very Dead? ;)

> Edwin Resurrection Condition: Player has placed Bodhi's Heart and

> Edwin's Body (See Appendix A) into the Amaunator altar. ALTAR, Dialogue

> #1: The altar hums softly for a moment, but then it grows silent once

> more. It seems to be expecting something more. You try desperately to

> think of what else could be used to draw Edwin's spirit back to you.

> Perhaps his suspicious nature will not trust entirely in the benevolence

> of a strange God, but if he could feel your own presence that might help…

Liked how you used the hairlock here...

> CHARNAME, I hardly know what to say. Part of me wants to berate your

> stupidity in risking yourself for my sake, but the greater part of me

> wants nothing less than to kiss you senseless and spend the rest of my

> life making it all up to you.

Awwwwwwww...

> C: The only stupidity here was on your part. How could you let Bodhi

> kidnap you like that? Are you a complete incompetent moron? =>6

Geez, good day to you too... ;)

> A: Fine, you may rejoin the group. Just watch your step in the future,

> loser. => Dialogue ends, Edwin rejoins group, set EDWINROMANCE=3. Make

> journal entry The Final Battle with Bodhi. B: Forget it. I have no room

> for you at the moment. =>7

>I feel…different inside. Different in a good way. Your words

> may have changed me, my deva, but my feelings for you remain constant. I

> would remain at your side, to prove that every day. (And every night. Yes

> indeed.) Will you have me back? Switch Edwin's Alignment to Chaotic

> Neutral

Cool! An alignment change... Say, I've heard Edwin goes from Lawful Evil to Chaotic Evil during his, ahum, experiences being woman. Is that true and did he go from Chaotic evil to chaotic neutral...

Wow, CN... Does that mean he and Jan will be best friends from now on? ;)

> C: Er…actually the party is pretty much complete at the moment. Maybe

> later. =>11

OUCH! That's even worse than the 'It's not you, it's me'-routine...

> As for Bodhi, I almost feel like resurrecting her as well, if only to be

> able to say 'Take that , sucker.' Oh, well. At least she will be good for

> something now. I only had to use the heart, and I think Edwin is going to

> be quite happy about his growing collection of disgusting vampiric spell

> components.

LOL! I had a great mental image here... Bohdi appearing out of thin air after a Wish-spell, only to have a stake shoved through her chest, and the PC just having enough time to shout : "IN YOUR FACE!!" before she explodes into dust... (Cue to play Wyeclef Jean's 'another one bites the dust') :)

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#7 Laufey

Posted 01 December 2001 - 08:08 PM

> Errrrr... *looks sheepish* Yeah... devastated... That's what it was... I

> think... Either that, or indigestion... :)

Ah, admit it. He's grown on you. ;)

> Happy? Ecologically sound? Do a summer-sault? Very Dead? ;)

Happy. Definitely happy.

> Liked how you used the hairlock here...

Thanks! :D

> Cool! An alignment change... Say, I've heard Edwin goes from Lawful Evil

> to Chaotic Evil during his, ahum, experiences being woman. Is that true

> and did he go from Chaotic evil to chaotic neutral...

Hm, I don't think it's true but I can't really say for sure.

> Wow, CN... Does that mean he and Jan will be best friends from now on? ;)

I wouldn't bet on it. :)

> LOL! I had a great mental image here... Bohdi appearing out of thin air

> after a Wish-spell, only to have a stake shoved through her chest, and the

> PC just having enough time to shout : "IN YOUR FACE!!" before

> she explodes into dust... (Cue to play Wyeclef Jean's 'another one bites

> the dust') :(

Actually that song did feature in my mind as I wrote that line. :)


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#8 Guest_Aoewyn_*

Posted 02 December 2001 - 04:07 AM

> Laufey: Fine. I'll just add that I wrote in the kidnapping journal

> entries, modified from Bioware's version into something different. All

> comments will be appreciated! :( Oh, and there is some mushy stuff

> ahead... ;)

Yeah, the mush circus came trumpeting in big time today! Chugga, chugga, chugga...

It's all cool though and Ed gets some wicked necromantic spell components to go along with it. (I'm not going to ask what he does with the various parts.)

Only thing I don't get is the LE to CN alignment change. Isn't that a bit drastic? I could see him moving to LN but not really CN. *shrugs* Just my opinion.

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#9 Laufey

Posted 02 December 2001 - 07:07 AM

> It's all cool though and Ed gets some wicked necromantic spell components

> to go along with it. (I'm not going to ask what he does with the various

> parts.)

Thanks! ´(And I'm not going to tell.)

> Only thing I don't get is the LE to CN alignment change. Isn't that a bit

> drastic? I could see him moving to LN but not really CN. *shrugs* Just my

> opinion.

It has to do with how I've developed his character so far. LN means following rules without much questioning, according to basic description. The way I've written the story Eddie certainly hasn't done that, so it didn't seem to fit. TN was another possibility, but didn't feel quite right either.

Then again, I'm not entirely comfortable with the alignment concept as such, so I wouldn't read too much into it. ;)


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#10 Guest_Oyster Girl_*

Posted 02 December 2001 - 02:56 PM

> It has to do with how I've developed his character so far. LN means

> following rules without much questioning, according to basic description.

> The way I've written the story Eddie certainly hasn't done that, so it

> didn't seem to fit. TN was another possibility, but didn't feel quite

> right either.

I'd go TN, myself. Preserving the Balance, a la Cernd, really only accounts for a small percentage of the TN population; Yoshimo is TN, after all.

I can't quite see Eddie as an anarchist, which is the CN extreme that matches the unquestioning LN extreme you cited above. The personality I've picked up from these dialogs is, rather, someone who knows when to follow the rules and when he can - or should - break them. Even the casual Chaotic, who is fairly close to the Chaos/Neutrality line, chafes under rules of any kind and accepts them only as sometimes necessary evils.

The other thing, of course, is that such drastic changes in personal philosophy (as represented by alignment) are usually the result of magic or insanity. Thus, Sarevok had to have drifted through CN to become CG; he had to learn to think of others as being just as important as himself before he could begin to think of others as more important than himself. I can, barely, make a case for Anomen's change, though I think TN might have been more appropriate there as well.


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#11 Laufey

Posted 02 December 2001 - 03:27 PM

> I can't quite see Eddie as an anarchist, which is the CN extreme that

> matches the unquestioning LN extreme you cited above. The personality I've

> picked up from these dialogs is, rather, someone who knows when to follow

> the rules and when he can - or should - break them. Even the casual

> Chaotic, who is fairly close to the Chaos/Neutrality line, chafes under

> rules of any kind and accepts them only as sometimes necessary evils.

Good point. I'd forgotten about Yoshi. (Don't hurt me for it, please?) ;)

I'll think it over and may or may not go the TN route in the final version.

> The other thing, of course, is that such drastic changes in personal

> philosophy (as represented by alignment) are usually the result of magic

> or insanity. Thus, Sarevok had to have drifted through CN to become CG; he

> had to learn to think of others as being just as important as himself

> before he could begin to think of others as more important than himself. I

> can, barely, make a case for Anomen's change, though I think TN might have

> been more appropriate there as well.

Well, Eddie just died and came back from near vampirism. That should count as a bit of a shocking experience. :(

On the other hand Viconia changes alignment, I think from NE to NG which is also a rather large step, and there was no outer factor except for love.


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#12 Weyoun

Posted 02 December 2001 - 03:43 PM

> On the other hand Viconia changes alignment, I think from NE to NG which

> is also a rather large step, and there was no outer factor except for

> love.

If I might break in here for a moment : Viconia doesn't go from neutral evil to Ng, but she goes to TN, which is fitting for her, considering her character development during the Romance talk (Love can be a powerful thing, you know...). But of course, like Oyster Girl said, and alignment change is a continuous process, and she is kinda slowly drifting away from NE during the romancetrack. I doubt her alignment changed stopped at Tob's end, and to develop more 'good' tendancies, eventually... One could argue that her alignment change started when she left the Underdark, though (after the death of her brother) and that there are plenty of outer factors as well : Entering a new and unpleasant world, losing her Drow innate magicks, worshipping a new goddess and being forced to give up most of her Drow indoctrinated viewpoints...

Therefore, I think Viconia's Alignment change is a more natural one than that of Sarevok... But then again, Viconia didn't get slaughtered and tortured in the Abyss for about two years and then offered a second chance at a mortal life.

Well, *gets off soap-box* That's my two cents. Sorry about the rant...

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#13 Guest_Aoewyn_*

Posted 02 December 2001 - 06:44 PM

I'd have to agree with O_G, TN would be a better alignment change than CN. Edward seems to be a loose cannon only when he gets his hands on certain scrolls.

I do think that alignment sux, when I've been DM I never enforced alignment unless the violation was grossly ridiculous, which it never got to.

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#14 Guest_Aoewyn_*

Posted 02 December 2001 - 07:08 PM

> I can't quite see Eddie as an anarchist, which is the CN extreme that

> matches the unquestioning LN extreme you cited above.

I've never understood why people call LN extreme. It's about individuals who follow order and law. That doesn't mean there aren't deviations.

LN not = sheep

It's kinda like lumping paladins together and saying they're all righteous fools. (Oops! I just did.)

> The other thing, of course, is that such drastic changes in personal

> philosophy (as represented by alignment) are usually the result of magic

> or insanity. Thus, Sarevok had to have drifted through CN to become CG

Yeah, that's the one thing I didn't like about Sarevok. There's this overwhelming need to make even the most despicable of characters a good person. I guess it's some mistaken emotion masquerading as logic that all stories have to have a happy ending.

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#15 Guest_Oyster Girl_*

Posted 03 December 2001 - 02:21 AM

> Good point. I'd forgotten about Yoshi. (Don't hurt me for it, please?) ;)

Nah. Even I don't have all his stats memorized. Just the important ones. :)

> Well, Eddie just died and came back from near vampirism. That should count

> as a bit of a shocking experience. ;)

Near-death experiences can be transforming. I just don't happen to believe that people change that radically, and especially that quickly. (Quickly as in four months or so.) The few people I have seen change did so over the course of many months.

> On the other hand Viconia changes alignment, I think from NE to NG which

> is also a rather large step, and there was no outer factor except for love.

As Weyoun pointed out, she moved to TN. Whether she continues her alignment drift after ToB ends is author's perogative. ;)


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#16 Guest_Oyster Girl_*

Posted 03 December 2001 - 02:51 AM

> I've never understood why people call LN extreme. It's about individuals

> who follow order and law. That doesn't mean there aren't deviations.

> LN not = sheep

No, no. I wasn't saying that LN is extreme, I was saying that "unquestioning obedience" is an extreme example of LN, what you get when you're all the way over on the left edge of the alignment chart, just as "anarchist" is the extreme example of CN.

> It's kinda like lumping paladins together and saying they're all righteous

> fools. (Oops! I just did.)

*grins* We all have our prejudices.

> Yeah, that's the one thing I didn't like about Sarevok. There's this

> overwhelming need to make even the most despicable of characters a good

> person. I guess it's some mistaken emotion masquerading as logic that all

> stories have to have a happy ending.

A fact of life in American entertainment, I'm afraid. I lost count of how many times I was told to not see Crouching Tiger because it was just so sad.

On the other hand, I do think the dialogues leading up to it filled out his character considerably. And I do find a shift into CN believable, given the circumstances. CG? If so, he's just barely over the line, I think.


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#17 Requiem

Posted 03 December 2001 - 03:39 AM

> Edwin: Well, I'm back. What else needs to be said really? (I'm sure they

> were all devastated by my tragic death in the previous installment.)

Yes Eddie, your return has made my day. ;)

The twist with the charm was excellent and it was sooo thoughtful of the PC to pick up spare parts for Eddie's vampiric collection! If Eddie's now CN, he and HD might just actually get along...plotting revolution or something. :)


#18 Laufey

Posted 03 December 2001 - 05:05 AM

> Yes Eddie, your return has made my day. ;)

Edwin: Glad to hear it. Not surprised of course, but glad.

> The twist with the charm was excellent and it was sooo thoughtful of the

> PC to pick up spare parts for Eddie's vampiric collection!

Thanks! ;)

If Eddie's now

> CN, he and HD might just actually get along...plotting revolution or

> something. ;)

Uh-oh. The Multiverse would be in bad trouble then, methinks. :) So do you think CN sounds allright or that I should go with TN as suggested above?


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#19 Requiem

Posted 03 December 2001 - 07:34 PM

> Edwin: Glad to hear it. Not surprised of course, but glad.

*sigh*

> Uh-oh. The Multiverse would be in bad trouble then, methinks. ;) So do you

> think CN sounds allright or that I should go with TN as suggested above?

*grin* The Multiverse is a scary place.... In regards to Eddie, I think that in general the dialogues and events have lead up to a change very nicely. I'd be more inclined to go with TN only because I think that he fits nicely within it and the behavioral extremes more closely match his typical behaviors and responses. He's shown the ability to change but I still don't see him fomenting rebellion anytime soon -- not that it's a requirement of CN, but it IS a possibility. Think about the ToB epilogue regarding HD.

(Btw, Requiem and I are having a similar discussion regarding HD as I'd like to think that the events he'll have gone through would exercise SOME influence over him.... Still not sure what he'll end up.)





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